One, Big, Beautiful Breakup

Tesla CEO Elon Musk shakes hands with U.S. President Donald Trump as they speak to reporters in the Oval Office of the White House on May 30, 2025, in Washington, DC.Photo-Illustration: WIRED Staff; Photograph: Kevin Dietsch/Getty Images

WIRED's senior politics editor Leah Feiger and Zoë Schiffer, WIRED's director of business and industry discuss the ongoing fallout between President Trump and Elon Musk, and its implications for the future of DOGE.

Mentioned in the episode:
Conspiracy World Thinks the Musk-Trump Breakup Is a 'Psyop' by David Gilbert
DOGE Is on a Recruiting Spree by Makena Kelly and Vittoria Elliott
Silicon Valley Is Starting to Pick Sides in Musk and Trump’s Breakup by Lauren Goode
WIRED Talked to a Fired DOGE Staffer About Who Was Really in Charge by Vittoria Elliott
Trumpworld Is Getting Tired of Laura Loomer. They Hope the President Is Too by Jake ...